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Talk:Opel Astra


Chevrolet Vectra plaform [ ]

Is there any proof that the Vectra is actually the Astra which is built on the Delta The external design is the same, but heard that it’s on the T-body platform like the G/B, not the Delta platform. unsigned comment added by (talk ) 21:19, 1 June (UTC)

old first level [ edit ]

the last picture is that’s not the new opel astra. is a good picture, someone it please:


uses the terms Opel A, Opel Astra B or Opel C, they are called Opel F/G/H in Germany. I know it, I am from Germany!

I’d put money on it that the version by the anon was copy/pasted from else — copyvio or —Morven 05:22, Jul 18, 2004

Well here’s another one –SFoskett 18:08, Sep 18, (UTC)


The original Astra was first produced in in the summer of 1980, but it had been on for a year as the German built Kadett. It was marketed as a three- and hatchback and estate with 1.3 and 1.6 engines as well as an economical 1.6 The Astra filled the gap in the Vauxhall which had been vacated by the Viva, but it stole many off the smaller Chevette which in production until the launch of the three years later.

The star of the original Astra was the 2.0 GSi, which was launched in and had a top speed of nearly 120mph. rounded off an impressive modern of small family cars proved to be a credible rival for the of the VW Golf and Ford Escort.


The second generation Vauxhall was based on the same chassis as its but used an entirely new aerodynamic which took time to The engine range was more than before, with the of 1.2 and 1.4 petrol engines. A saloon (badged Belmont in the UK) was introduced in the of 1986.

In 1986 the Astra was boosted by the launch of the GTE 16-valve, used the GSi’s 2.0 engine but was to give more power and an top speed of nearly 140mph. The to the new fast version of the Astra was the that its chassis could not its performance.

When production of the generation Astra ceased in the of 1991, South Korean Daewoo purchased the rights to the car and it remained in production for a further six as the Daewoo Nexia.

VAUXHALL/OPEL MK3 (1991-1998)

With the third model, the Astra was finally as both a Vauxhall and Opel Europe, although the Kadett was still used in Africa. An Holden Astra was also

The engine line-up was entirely with 1.4, 1.6 and 2.0 petrol all getting fuel injection. was also a 1.7 non-turbo and turbo-diesel. and handling were acceptable but not class leading.

Vauxhall-Opel the Astra range up to date in all especially specification. For the first the Astra could be had with steering, electric windows, and antilock brakes.

A facelift at the end of saw the Astra’s engine mildly but the rest of the package was very the same as before.


General Motors the fourth generation Astra in the of 1998, with all-new engines (1.4, 1.6, 2.0 and 2.2) plus 1.7 and 2.0 turbo-diesels. was also a 2.0 turbo capable of Build quality, reliability, comfort and handling were improved over the stodgy Astra.

The Astra was now badged the world under four marques – Vauxhall in Opel in Europe, Chevrolet in and Holden in Australia.

The Astra spawned off three different within two years of its launch the seven-seater Zafira compact MPV the Italian-built Astra Coupe and which were designed and by design studio Bertone.

The generation Astra was a big step for General Motors. It was unimaginatively inside and out, but was one of the best family cars in Europe in of ride, handling, refinement and Prices were competitive

VAUXHALL/OPEL ASTRA MK5 (2004-present)

The generation Astra was launched in the of 2004 by General Motors as a bid to produce a class leading car in the medium sector. Vauxhall-Opel was now a stylish, well-built, competitively-priced and fun to small family cars was intent on stealing sales off the Focus.

When Astra MK5 production it was sold only as a five-door but a three-door hatchback and five-door are set to follow within the next

I spotted one about the Audi 80 editor originally caught it and the same) that read this writer’s work, but IP I am not sure if it is copied They both read a bit but there are parts that have been in such a such as the international names. this same writer to write ‘MK1′ which never be allowed in professional (Mk 1 or Mk. 1, with a space, being the forms).

I did quick searches of a few and couldn’t find them on the Never mind, as between the of us and other Wikipedians we have a replacement. Stombs 06:01, Dec 19, (UTC)

He’s back [ ]

IP is probably the same and introduced some changes to page, either factually or reflecting an opinion. I’ve them. Stombs 23:12, Jan 1, (UTC)

Incorrect 2004 photo [ edit ]

The photo of a 2004 Astra is actually the model (which looks different) and should be replaced one of a real 2004 Astra.

GTC and GSI [ ]

There must be a sub-title these special products. respect, Deliogul 23:05, 8 2006 (UTC)

Astra Mk5 [ edit ]

Can someone verify or not the Astra Mk 5 is based on the General Delta platform? The Delta entry suggests otherwise –Whatsoverthere 23:15, 16 February (UTC)

The current Astra is not on It’s still a T-car. but an FWD at that. The next Astra be on Delta and will possibly be by Saturn in the US. -Daniel Blanchette 8 April 2006 (UTC)

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Article Opel Astra or General Astra? [ edit ]

I think the is wrongly named General Astra. It would be more called Opel Astra. The is not present in the North American so it´s not branded as GM Astra in any I know of. I will move it to Astra.

In Brazil it´s Chevrolet Astra and is not in line with the european Opel , since it recieved a few facelifts of bringing the current Opel model. What do you think? Is it correct to call it the General Astra? Wikipedia guidelines for names advice us to use the term a most probably would search box. In this it’s definitely not General Astra (Chevrolet Astra and Astra would be much likely the case).

Just in if General Motors Astra so Opel Tigra and Opel should be changed also. 17:29, 4 August 2006

Well, my cut´n´paste move was I wasn´t able to move the because Opel Astra correct title for this is alread taken with a for General Motors Astra. The one did not even bothered reading the page, nor posting.

So I will the move instead, so an administrator handle it. The article naming is wrong. Please explain motives. I will not move because cut´n´pasting to move is something too radical and I do not want to a revert war either. Actually the simply caused more on wikipedia servers instead of it, keep it in mind if the intention was to show that a Cut´n´paste was a wrong way to move.

Loudenvier 4 August 2006 (UTC) It is Motors Astra, because the Astra refers to just one of the variants. As this is a top-level covering the Vauxhall, Opel and Astras, Opel Astra is as a title.

Requested move [ ]

General Motors Astra → Astra – Rationale . The article’s page has deeper information on but to summarize: the Opel Astra was not on the North American market and isn´t a single place it´s called General Astra. The article’s history also indicates it´s not Motors Astra, but Opel , a car originated from the Opel from 1979 in Germany. The is an European car, from a subsidiary of General Motors.

The car is as Opel Astra all around the except in Latin America it´s know as simply (from Chevrolet). The category for car is Category:Opel vehicles . so how come the for the article is General Motors Under Wikipedia Naming this article title is

I did a cut´n´paste move (which was I assume) and it got reverted without I wasn’t able to move the to Opel Astra because Astra is now a redirect to General Astra. but it should be the opposite of (that´s why I fell to the temptation of the move). Loudenvier 19:36, 4 2006 (UTC)

Since I am in a way for this kerfuffle and I believe the should be solved ASAP, I like to add a few cents to the discussion:

The standard adopted by WikiProject is that articles on automobiles are the way the model is called in its original (the market where the headquarters is located and/or for it was primarily developed). Therefore, the of the article General Motors is wrong and this should be as there is/was no vehicle GM Astra in any market.

The history of the is actually a few different histories that of the Opel Astra (with Opel arguably the original brand and continental being the original market, as the were predominantly developed in design centres in Europe), Astra. which is parallel to the generations of the Opel Kadett and Opel Astra. that of the Astra (which, before it one with Opel Astra, was a nameplate used for rebadged and the Latin American Chevrolet which generally follows the of Opel Astra. but has not yet progressed the third generation. Additionally, it covers the Opel Astra models (and derivatives), but do not have any technical differences or that would prevent from being discussed with other Astras.

The currently most closely the Vauxhall Astra history an UK market point of view, creates unnecessary confusion for looking for information on other models. A separate Holden article exists, more or accurately explaining the usage of the in the Australia and New Zealand markets.

As the Astra is arguably the original for the last three generations of the (A/F, B/G, C/H), on those should be moved to the Astra article.

The remaining Astra article should the usage of the nameplate in the British directing users to main on given generations – Kadett or Opel Astra

Astra in general follows the of the Opel, without divertions in the case of Vauxhall or Holden, so it be discussed within the Opel with eventual differences – the Chevrolet Astra be a redirect to Opel Astra .

If are no general objections or alternative I propose we submit this to Requests for Move. Regards, talk – 20:36, 4 2006 (UTC)

Survey [ ]

Add * Support or * Oppose followed by an one-sentence explanation, then your opinion with

(since I did propose the move in the place. #160;:-) Loudenvier 4 August 2006 (UTC)

. makes sense to me. Recury 5 August 2006 (UTC)

. The same should be done to Motors Corsa and General Zafira. –Pc13 11:02, 7 2006 (UTC)

I’d like to note that I Bravada’s suggestion, and made a suggestion years ago but never on it. –SFoskett 13:50, 10 August (UTC)

Support . but please short articles specific to make/model combination, with to the origin model. In the future, GM may the divisions and substitute a different car for one or more makes, while calling them by the same name. There was a time the Cadillac Seville was an upscale Nova, but later the Seville a completely different front-wheel design and the Nova did not.

speaking, it would have inconvenient to have to go back and a combined article about the two and reconstruct the individual histories of model. Put the common information in a article, and the different information in articles, and use the hypertext features to them. 20:20, 17 February (UTC)

Discussion [ edit ]

Add any comments

User:Bravada stated on my page that the title Motors Astra looks atrocious to users from or North America. That was my impression (In fact I didn’t until Bravada´s comment when I typed Opel in the search box I was actually being to General Motors Astra because I would never such atrocious thing#160;:-) 19:45, 4 August 2006

I think the Vauxhall Astra not be considered a separate article,but be merged on the Opel Astra and the General Motors Astra should redirect to Opel too (as already requested). The Holden deserves a mention on the Opel article but also an article for since it was a very different car in the with a very distinctive 20:46, 4 August 2006

The history of the Vauxhall Astra is quite different than of the Opel Astra. and keeping together creates confusion as of now, it is not that evident, but the move you would have an on Opel Astra starting the description of cars that Opel Astras! Rather that, a short article the usage of the Vauxhall nameplate to relevant sections of Opel and Opel Astra articles of course, countrereferences in those could be more informative just like in the case of Astra. Bravada. talk 22:39, 4 August 2006

Eventually, the General Motors entry should be deleted (after all wikilinks would be as it is an entity exisiting only on WP is no such car in real world per se ), a very dangerous precedent. talk – 22:39, 4 2006 (UTC)

I can see the reasoning having a General Motors even if such a thing exist as an actual car (I don’t see the personally, since there indeed exist a car called the made by General Motors. It a lot of duplicate effort that be spent maintaining separate for Opel Kadett, Opel Vauxhall Astra, Holden etc etc. There’s got to be a better Collard 02:09, 5 August (UTC)

Again, creating that only exist WP is a very bad practice, and there IS and be a separate article for Opel in case you didn’t know. The separate Vauxhall Astra would not be any longer than the Holden Astra. which duplicates anything said in the article. Bravada. talk 08:34, 5 August 2006

This page is already to the Request for moves. Afterwards we propose other moves if Loudenvier 20:46, 4 August (UTC)

There’s no need to put on the request for move entry the procedure calls for consensus, so I remove the on-hold tag to allow to follow the ordinary move process, which is to discuss the on the talk page#160;:-) Loudenvier 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I think this issue is so that it requires a formal and additionally a split would be effective than a series of edits. I have asked an involved in the topic for assistance and I he will find some to help with that. Bravada. talk – 4 August 2006 (UTC)

just added information on the Motors Corsa (sic) the proposed move for the Astra besoon proposed to the Corsa. If I an administrator, moving these titled articles should be Loudenvier 14:27, 7 August (UTC)

This article has renamed as the result of a move . Vegaswikian 05:55, 10 August (UTC)

Praise the Lord! [ ]

Kudos to Vegaswikian for finally out the kerfuffle. For the article to live up to its new I have moved the Vauxhall-specific to Vauxhall Astra. Still, articles require much and editorial work. I hope will be plenty of volunteers#160;:D talk – 14:47, 10 2006 (UTC)

Current Astra [ edit ]

The current Astra has a front and hear a different from the Astra G. not the Astra H tough. I don’t quite well how to put this inside the article. Maybe tha Astra is the Astra G facelifted.

a small picture left of the brazillian Astra would Loudenvier 13:28, 11 August (UTC)

Infoboxes [ edit ]

The article has good content, but diagramation is horrendous. The infoboxes are not with the sections they to. If we could provide Infoboxes in alignment (left and right) we could fix this diagramatin I don’t know how to edit the themselves to allow this (left alignment) (perhaps already possible and it’s me being too damn stupid!).

someone shed some on this? Regards Loudenvier 11 August 2006 (UTC)

there’s no easy solution for other than using the
tag breaks up paragraph formatting so the next paragraph only after all tables, templates, etc. anchored in the previous finish. What we need is fill in more text for generation, there is so much to say!

By the way, Chevrolet, Holden and Astra versions are all mentioned in the infobox, I think there is no to reiterate that, just the which were unique to one (like Opel Kadett F in Africa with regard to A/F). I think we need to a nifty list for every clarifying all names and where were used, like in the Zafira and Opel Corsa

I was also wondering whether to the naming of generations as Astra I, II and Astra III. It is quite used e.g. in Poland in and automotive literature, and I think in marketing (though I’m not whether I’ve ever it in anything else than advertising and promo materials). we don’t mention it that would call the second in a row second or 2nd generation, because it is obvious, but would that be or

Bravada. talk – 11 August 2006 (UTC) In we know the Astra’s as: German (the Astra imported in Astra (the 1998 G) and New Astra (the current Astra which seems to be a Astra G). To the common user Astra A, B, C, D, Z, Y#160;:-) means around here, but, Astra I, II and III would be more The problem is that the Chevrolet line is outdated in realtion to the line.

Astra I would to German Astra . Astra II to and Astra III to New Astra . and it would be from Astra I, II or III for the correct naming. Loudenvier 14:37, 11 2006 (UTC)

I added a bit of [ edit ]

Opel Astra

I remember reading in Trend that a design for the generation Saturn Ion was scrapped and was to be a rebadged Opel Astra. I it to the article. 23:02, 27 2006 (UTC)

Please, if you find the source and cite it this information would be welcome to the article (a kind of an in USA. ). But we need a reference for Could you provide us one? Loudenvier 03:04, 28 August (UTC)

Astra in the USA [ edit ]

I we should not dismiss the source car may be GM hit as a gossip that should not be . I propose we add this information since it has a source (in fact, than one source, because I was to find a few places citing the Astra will hit the USA as stated on the dismissed link). Perhaps a temporal template stating this is about a current or event is enough.

Leting info out is diminishing the value of article because it’s a impact to the Astra family: hit the US. If no are made I will restore the and will put the temporal template in Regards Loudenvier 17:34, 18 2006 (UTC)

Objection even widespread gossip is gossip. Wikipedia, in general, not include statements about unless they are absolutely I believe in case of automobiles means a statement from the directly, i.e. a link to a press release. Until GM one (and I believe they haven’t), this is still gossip. Remember that WP be the most factually accurate than most up-to-date.

talk – 18:14, 18 2006 (UTC) A widespread could have a place in in my opinion, if it was not so then the Template:Current and all of the templates would be of no use. as a planet discussions would to wait for the final statement to into wikipedia.) The wording on the could state clearly it is a scheduled and/or, to some uncertain event. For the sake of I would include this on the article, and one of the main reasons for is that this is a too much piece of information that the article should not let it out.

for a manufacturer statement could be a requirement for adding something to the If you read the Fiat Marea you would see that the Brazilian stated that the Marea SX 127hp didn’t valve control phase variator of the and that exchanging the SX fuel chip for the HLX would be of no use. The statement was a big lie.

The Marea SX had device disabled by way of a reprogrammed fuel injection chip, and this chip for the HLX model bring back the full of that model. All that is for wikipedia is a reliable source. The newspaper seems reliable to me. wait for further discussion on the but I’m inclined to bring the back to the article if no more reasons for ommiting it surfaces.

Regards Loudenvier 22:07, 18 2006 (UTC) Current are one of the most abused on WP, and the sole of the current automobile template in form is one big abuse, but I don’t the time to go back to fighting again. It serves as a pretext for ignoring the Wikipedia is not a crystal WP:NOT policy, and this is why you can see so examples of that. Uncertain should have no place in WP.

An is not about speculation, it is about In principle, we cannot inform anything that has not yet happened. to the Fiat Marea example, it is not and one would need some good references for the statement the described chip change is and first and foremost, to an official source declaring that it is As for now, it is an unreferenced claim on accounts.

Besides, the manufacturer is the one who whether they release a or not – no paper can be more on that, as they are not the ones who the decision, so this is an entirely case. And, while you may not manufacturers entirely (although, this is totally irrelevant in case, as they are the ones who the decisions, so there is nothing not to them about), the press is far reliable, eager to create out of the little gossip they

Do I have to refer you to countless of press specualtions proving to be no matter how widespread some was? The article is currently in a state, failing to convey a brief roundup of all the factual, verifiable information there are on the 15 years of the Astra, so I guess we can without starting a gossip Bravada. talk – 18 September 2006 (UTC) the Marea chip: It’s not a without substance.

Just the Marea caput and you’ll see the missing valve control is I’ve changed the chip on my and the full 147hp were (the engine blowed not of the chip change, but because my drove the car and did not paid attention to the low oil light!). Many sources for Fiat lie exists: [1] [2]. I go on, but I think you will not waste time trying to read all sources in portuguese#160;:-).

If any previous could be so dynamic as Wikipedia sure they would current events. All that is is common sense. For example, many games that are in developement sometimes make articles, even before the are released. Grigori Perelman of Poincaré Conjecture would not be in because it’s still a controversial and current event. man, it’s encyclopedic, as I the information that Astra reach the USA is also.

Regards. 13:47, 19 September 2006 I clicked the Perelman link but it was to me that he is a mathematician, and therefore I to read the article on principial (not to mention the scary ). Coming back to the topic why don’t we just wait a few until the matter gets out? There is such a array of past, and certain, that are still not covered by that we do not have to worry we aren’t covering all the latest Bravada. talk – 19 September 2006 (UTC)

in USA [ edit ]

Please, until GM a statement it still unofficial Wikipedia is not meant to be a newspaper. The we found is a good one: the interveiu with Bob Lutz. anything further than will be in violation of wikipedia I will back-up Bravada in any until such a statement is by GM or Saturn.

To avoid a revert war I leaving this part of the as it reads now: it tells the high probability of Astra in the letting the reader to figure out if it is or not for Regards. Loudenvier 17:24, 6 2006 (UTC)

Ontopic [ edit ]

I have submitted a to the external links, and it has removed. I believe it is not spam, and it is ontopic. Roy

Opening Paragraph [ ]

I find this is wording not work. At the end of the first paragraph, it ‘It competes mainly the Ford Focus and Volkswagen I find this is rather now that the car will be sold in America this year the Saturn Brand). My reasoning for is that while the Ford may be considered a mid-range car in Europe, it is certainly NOT in North America. that the car competes mainly a Ford Focus and the Volkswagen will lead a person the US or Canada to believe that the point on an Astra can vary $12,000 CDN to $28,000 CDN. (As the American Focus is priced at – $15,500 CDN and the Golf is – $28,000 CDN) SJM 26 2007

Hey, thanks to whomever this so promtly. SJM 28 February

Astra F engine spec [ edit ]

engine spec for F uploaded, information taken Haynes service and repair wan1945 21:05, 29 April (UTC) —The preceding comment was added by Scorpio (talk • contribs ) 09:20, 2 2007 (UTC).

Panoramic [ edit ]

I read

panoramic (unique for a production car at the time of its which extends into the area. This type of is not a panoramic windscreen.

A car with a panoramic windscreen haves with a vertical angle opel Kapitän P1 This way the block Les visibility.


—Preceding unsigned comment by (talk ) 10:57, 30 2007 (UTC)

Merge Astra into Opel [ edit ]

Hi people, there’s an on discussion about this on the Astra article talk It would be interesting if we participate so we can really reach a better of the issue. Please, visit the page of Saturn Astra to Loudenvier (talk ) 19:21, 11 2007 (UTC)

–— T | C #160; 19:32, 11 December (UTC)

OK – the conclusion of debate was a clear consensus to – so Saturn Astra is now a to this page. The original Astra page is stored at the of the talk page for that SteveBaker (talk ) 01:14, 3 2008 (UTC)

Error in [ edit ]

There’s something with the width of the hatchback it can’t be 2032 mm (80 in) vs 1753 mm (69 in) / mm (69.3 in) for the other models. (talk ) 02:32, 7 June (UTC)

Easytronic [ edit ]

or more of the generations had the Easytronic I am fairly sure it was the Astra-G and – can someone clarify/confirm, and add it to the thanks. (talk ) 24 August 2009 (UTC)

panorama [ edit ]

Do you think is useful to add an external link to panorama: Interior of an Opel I only propose it.–RobCatalà ) 08:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Bad dates [ edit ]

Astras F produced and sold in Poland late 2001 and sold as Classic, as opposed to Astra G in Poland as Atra II. I own this produced in august 2001, in november 2001 from in Poznań.

Production dates be expanded at least to 2001 or early 2002.

Yanc unsigned comment added by (talk ) 10:11, 13 August (UTC)

Engine [ edit ]

The table really needs to which engine code with which model. It is missing the 1.2 Corsa engine in some (underpowered) Astras82.141.196.178 ) 16:27, 5 January 2012

Also, I believe putting 5.7 V8 or 4.0 V8 on the is wrong and foolish, for these are concepts or race cars. Its as saying a big block 455 Chevy is a VW engine, as people swap for racing. (talk ) 23:16, 29 2012 (UTC)

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