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Alfa Romeo 164

Alfa Romeo: Alfa 164 QV #8211; Cloverleaf #8211; 236

26th, 2010 by NZ Classic Car

1976, when I was living and in London, a close friend to me for a spot of advice. He’d got himself a new job, and as part of his new package he was invited to pick out a new car for himself. At that time, I think the term ‘executive had been coined certainly, was no such thing as a yuppie then; that aphorism not gain any currency until the ’80s.

However, my friend was on the look-out for an executive car at that I suspect, more commonly as a sports saloon.

He’d zeroed in on two cars, the first of was a BMW 3 Series. In 1976 this BMW was fresh to the market, having been released the previous when it had replaced the very 2002 and the six-cylinder 323i he was at had only just been onto the UK market.

However, my was unfamiliar with Teutonic having a distinct preference for Italian and that included lambrusco, Sophia Loren of course, Alfa Romeos his personal transport was an Alfa 105 Which brings me to his second a brand spanking new Alfetta In 1976, the Alfetta which its name from Alfa glorious Grand Prix was already around four old.

One sunny Saturday I met up with my friend with a to taking both the 323i and the out for a test drive.

The Alfetta was going to come second in comparison; its 97kW, 1779cc banger was never going to the silken power (106kW) of lovely straight six. this was the case the BMW was much than the Alfa and, to make things more the German machine also sharper and more agile the Italian. However, the crunch-point when we researched depreciation

Quite simply, the Alfetta even approach the BMW in this The BMW was more highly priced and wasn’t helped by the fact while securing a discount on a new was straightforward, it would’ve been to find an honest politician in Britain than inveigling a BMW into knocking off a few quid the list price of a 3 Series. the real sticker was Alfa’s reputation.

Mind you, didn’t just apply to Romeo, it was a broad-based perception, in the UK, of most Italian cars.

In the mid this sort of belief helped at all by the debacle of the Lancia a car which had been roundly for its rustability. Put quite simply, cars with their Russian-sourced steel just handle harsh UK conditions, included roads that regularly salted during the months. The upshot of the rusty saga was that Lancia from the UK market permanently!

I recall, really upset my uncle who, at that maintained a large collection of ranging from Aurelias and to a gorgeous Flaminia. I always that, when my uncle the UK to live in Spain in the early he’d made the move so he continue to buy Lancias. Alas, he discovered that modern of his chosen marque were marginally longer-lasting in the warmer climate.

In the end, he took to a Volvo the epitome of durability as his driver although, of course, he continue to cherish his earlier right up to his final days.

A BMW Rival

What the above is that Alfa Romeo didn’t have a car that favourably compete with the BMW during the ’70s. The Italian was doing better in the sportier with the Alfetta GTV and the Spider, but it was way behind its German rivals it came to sporting saloons. And as we into the ’80s yuppiedom and expresses it seemed that my would forever be tied to a BMW or a

Fortunately for drivers who preferred brio, Alfa Romeo had the missing executive car link in its and as early as 1984 was already towards a solution. Following a test and development phase saw test ‘mules’ and pre-production hammered over a variety of and harsh environments (including a on desert roads in Morocco) it its 164 at the Frankfurt Motor Show in obviously choosing that as a warning to BMW.

With wedge-shaped styling courtesy of the new 164 was a bit of a landmark car for Alfa Romeo. It was the car developed by Alfa before it part of Fiat by the time the 164 was in Fiat was already in charge. It was the first of Alfa’s large cars and, more the first Alfa made good quality steel.

As the 164’s all-new chassis it would share with the Croma, Lancia Thema and promised good handling and although many lamented the of rear-wheel drive.

Packed loads of hi-tech goodies heated electrically adjustable seats to sports adaptive in the higher end models the 164 was aimed at the newly popular executive

Although the 164 would be available a variety of engines including turbo, 2.0-litre Twinspark, V6 turbo and even a 2.5-litre it is the 3.0-litre V6 versions which the most praise. Indeed, V6 complete with its highly inlet tracts would be hailed as one of Alfa’s very engines.

Under Fiat further development of the 164 would be and efficient. Automatic transmission was in 1989, with the entry-level Twinspark model following the year. However, for enthusiasts the news centred on the more top-of-the-line QV (quadrifoglio, or four-leaf version which debuted in 1990.

In 1993 Alfa released a generation 164 with revised larger bumpers and a better panel design. Once the best stuff came the V6 models, with a quad-cam, version making its appearance in two the Super and the more powerful QV. in the same year Alfa launched the 164 Q4 which, as the suggests, featured four-wheel

This car’s 4WD system, in conjunction with Steyr-Puch, a viscous coupling, a central differential and a Torsen differential in the The Q4 was fitted with a Getrag manual gearbox rather Alfa’s own five-speeder.

As a measure of the popularity, well over a of a million examples were until the model was replaced by the 166 in

Step inside the leather-lined of a 164 and you know that you’re in for an experience, as evidenced by a plethora of gauges and gadgets you can even your … warm on a day with the heated seats.

this is all well and good for the exec who wants a selection of to play with while in rush hour gridlock, enthusiastic drivers will be to sample the car’s more attributes which are plainly from the moment you start beautifully creamy V6. And, you’re on the move and open up the there are even more delights on offer.

I’ve many a mile under the of Alfa’s 3.0-litre V6, but every I get the chance to sample one I’m in by the intoxicating sounds emanating this engine. The V6 isn’t exhaust crackle, it’s all induction noise revving the gears makes the hair on the of your neck stand to and the sound is even better on the as you peg backwards through the gears.

Alfa’s V6 orchestra is well to the 164’s handling. Sure, most readers I’d a traditional rear-driver, but the 164 has to be one of the better-handling cars I’ve driven. To be like all cars of its ilk the 164 does some torque steer as our test car was a later, 1994 QV, it was in this respect than examples I had previously driven.

torque steer isn’t too and it takes little away the 164’s relatively neutral balance.

As an added bonus, the damping system in our test car was functional and worked a treat the temptation to hit the ‘Sport’ button and up the ride and handling was too much, so we really do much motoring in mode.

Like most cars, the 164’s nose to plough outwards under spirited driving but, out by very positive steering, the remains easy to control when you’re approaching the edge of the car’s handling

Stopping isn’t a problem all V6-powered 164s received front disc brakes and in our car they worked well, the car quickly and all-square.

It may not be a real but the Alfa Romeo 164 comes as a handsome car and, with its spoiler, side-skirts and be-winged it certainly looks very Find a good, well for 164 (four cams have to than two) and you’ll be able to get the silly grin off face. Drive one and you’ll be pressed not to be drawn in by the allure of lovely V6.

Buyers’ Guide

it’s possible to pick up a 164 for a few thousand dollars, you can only a high mileage, tired for that sort of money. For a 24-valver the price range be more like $6000 to and expect to pay a premium over for lower mileage examples have been properly

It pays to remember that a V6-engined 164 can be purchased for very few these are complex machines will require specialist As such, a full service is a must.

Alfa Romeo 164

When it comes to out a potential purchase, it’s good news when it to the 164. Unless they’re neglected, you can expect most to have solid, mostly bodies.

However, it pays to the front sub-frame, rear member, and the rear wheel alongside the rear doors as are all prone to rust. Also, and rear screens sometimes tell-tale signs of a leak are or damp carpets. Cars with sun-roofs can also signs of water leaks, and mirror mounts and the blacked-out trim are areas prone to

Mechanically, the 164’s driveline is robust, although it should be that the V6 requires regular changes at the recommended intervals 50,000km), and that the tensioner needs to replaced each The V6’s only known is related to its fuel-injection system, so fuel filter changes are The V6 can misfire under heavy usually due to a faulty engine computer, but if it’s properly it should be possible to get very mileage from the V6, though its depends on how it’s been

There are no serious issues the 164’s five-speed gearbox and wear can be heavy, especially if you indulge in tyre-smoking starts.

Now we to the more problematic areas and cooling. Of these, it is the electrical that will probably 164 owners with their headaches.

All those high-tech spell trouble, not helped by plastic switches and wiring most problems should be by a good auto-electrician.

The dashboard LCD display can slowly to get hard to read as segments the display fail. It’s not a and most 164 owners simply with an unreadable display.

Of concern is the 164’s electronic system, which appears to be one of the major systems to cease When test-driving a 164, if the seems a little harsh probably because the system has and it has reverted to the default ‘Sport’ even if ‘Normal’ is selected. could be due to … or dirty or faulty wiring.

In either rectification is best handled by a although, if you’re not fussy, perfectly okay to drive a 164 in Sport mode just a jiggly ride over roads at low speeds.

If the electronic seems fine, but handling is look for sloppy suspension (a good set of Nolathane bushes be a good investment). Wheel is also crucial to good as a bonus this should help to smooth out the 164’s towards torque steer.

it comes to the 164’s cooling check the radiator to ensure it is in condition and that the cooling are fully operational with the air con off, the main fan should at around 90 degrees. Also for signs of water pump replacement is difficult due to their

Early 164s had an air distribution due to plastic gears within the failing which is fixable, but dashboard removal is required. Not for the faint-hearted. Also, check the if you can hear a ‘ticking’ noise it is on, it’s probably only due to a resistor.

Alfa Romeo 24V- Specifications

Engine V6, front transverse


Bore/ … 93#215;72.6mm

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